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The big reveal of what's going on is finally here, and I have to say, I love it.

We open with the preview pages. Doctor Strange shows up at a facility where SHIELD are currently keeping Doom - with Doom's cooperation, considering he could escape if he wanted to - and meditates with him. He says, "You're here, Victor, because you are scared. And if you're scared, I'm terrified." Strange is sure that between them, they can divine the truth of what's going on with Cynthia and Reed.

Doom is pissy when he figures out that Strange doesn't actually have a spell in mind, he just wants to talk, but he reveals that he witnessed Reed and his mother being affectionate with each other - which leads Strange to conclude that it's obviously not Doom's real mom, and Doom to conclude that it's not the real Reed. He doesn't know who's behind it, but vows to see them burn in hell - which is when they both figure it out. By this time, the false Reed has already arrived at the facility and started setting things on fire, and they go to confront him, where upon he reveals his true form as...

...the demon Mephisto, who has decided there's no way in hell - literally - that he's going to let Doom go about attempting to redeem his damned soul.

To Be Continued...

You know, tremendous credit due. I went into this meh on the idea of evil Ultimate Reed as the bad guy, super wary of any use of Cynthia's character, and starting to get frustrated with the length of time the reveal was being dragged out - but this whole twist is just brilliant. It makes total sense that Mephisto would be unhappy at the idea of Doom working on improving the state of his soul after having damned it to save his mother, and it also makes total sense that he would use Cynthia in some way, whether she's the real one or a false version. (And I should note that I did even actually raise the possibility, based on the styling of the speech bubbles as well as the logical association, that Cynthia's partner could be Mephisto back when I read issue #1. But then when it seemed to be revealed as a version of Reed I forgot about that totally, so this twist still came as a complete surprise.)

Okay, so, with that glowing praise out of the way, I must admit in some ways this issue is triumph of brilliant idea over so-so execution. I feel like the dialogue got especially ropey and OOC-feeling this issue, which is probably the effect of Bendis juggling multiple more formally-speaking characters who all have their own distinct voices that are out out of his dialogue comfort zone. While his Mephisto voice is not bad (although I'm least familiar with Mephisto of the three) I didn't feel like either Doom or Strange sounded very much like themselves.

Have to say I'm not mad keen on Maleev's take on Strange, here, either - I don't know, he just seems too... rugged? And thickly-bearded with no grey in his hair, so it just doesn't seem like him at all. Though some Googling suggests he's got that look going on in his current book that I haven't been following? Not knowing if there's a canon explanation for the new look, I guess I'm gonna choose to imagine he's started dyeing his hair. (I'm keeping up with zero other Marvel at all lately. Can I just take this moment to be extremely appreciative of the fact that this book has ignored Secret Empire so thoroughly I haven't had to make even a token effort to find out what's going on? Woo.)

Anyway, to be fair I guess I was kind of spoiled by Marquez's perfect Doctor Strange back in the run-up to this comic in Invincible Iron Man #5, so anything less was always going to be a hard sell. Maleev does do some fab panels of 'Reed' letting lose with the hellfire (great atmospheric colouring by Matt Hollingsworth in those sequences, too) and the whole Mephisto reveal at the end is great.

So, overall, I have a number of quibbles with the execution when you get down to it, but I was so apprehensive about what the reveal behind this whole Cynthia plot was going to be, and this is so much better and more interesting than anything I was imagining they could be planning to do with Ult Reed, that I'm just delighted all the same. What a fantastic twist! I love it.

Date: 2017-09-01 05:21 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] laireshi
I hadn't expected the reveal AT ALL, I'm kinda amazed they managed to keep it a secret that long!

Sad that the next issue is the last, though.

Date: 2017-09-01 10:31 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] laireshi
Infamous IM is ending, yeah, but Doom will stay good at least a while yet (and I'm very glad for it, I also don't want him to return to being the total evil villain). Marvel is changing all its books numeration to what it would be if it kept going from 1, so Iron Man will be at #593 and it will have Tony, Riri and Doom in some form. Here's some news on it. (There will also be a general Legacy oneshot to explain things).

Also, this cover: http://static1.cbrimages.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/INVIM2016594-Covfinal.jpg?cs=tinysrgb&q=20&w=864&h=1311&fit=crop for IIM 594.

Bendis always said Infamous was a planned out series with an ending and not an ongoing one, so I do hope the last issue delivers! I loved all of it so far so I'm optimistic. And also extremely impatient :P

Date: 2017-09-03 07:52 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] harveysdent
Voices reeeeally felt off, tbh. But Triumph and Torment 2: Electric Boogaloo!! LOL. I'm glad it all makes sense now, waiting 'til issue #11 and still not knowing wtf Ult Reed is up to was frustrating. But part of me feels cheated out of a legit conclusion to a purported 1610 Reed and 616 Doom showdown lmao. I honestly wanted to see how the hell this was going to work.

Also it makes the Cynthia romance angle a lot more alarming LOL. Before it was a ridiculous (sort of) May-December romance that I wasn't taking seriously and now it's back to the same old, presumably nonconsensual demon stuff. yikesssss.
Edited Date: 2017-09-03 07:56 pm (UTC)

Date: 2017-09-04 03:39 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] harveysdent
Yeah, definitely nice to see Strange in a reformed Doom book, considering their history! Way back, I think there was a line Strange had in Invincible Iron Man that spoke to that.

I feel you, it wouldn't have the same potency with just 1610, and with two issues left, any explanation would've been much more long-winded and convoluted than this clear and simple development. Also glad to see them bringing Iron Doomâ„¢ into Legacy! The return to villainy is probably inevitable but I'd love if they let him sidle back into a more grey area after everything's said and done.

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